Showing posts with label Fast and Furious. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fast and Furious. Show all posts

Monday, July 9, 2012

Experts Agree Gun Control Works!

Experts Agree Gun Control Works!

The defense of the right to keep and bear arms is a defense of the core of the American Soul. The San Francisco Bleat, Nancy “stretch” Pelosi is calling for gun registration. In an interview with Good Morning America (Good Grief, America; you actually watch that?) everyone`s favorite Bolshevik grandmother called for the registration of American firearms. According to the Washington Times: “The speaker picked a television show with a viewership of 4.6 million to float the Democrats’ coming gun-control push. Questioned on ABC’s “Good Morning America” about the prospect of new gun-control laws now that “it’s a Democratic president, a Democratic House,” she responded, “We don’t want to take their guns away. We want them registered.”
The above was pulled from a Timothy Birdnow article


They want you to say | It's better to say   
    (and you lose if you say): | (and they lose if you say)  
    =======================================================               
                       pro gun | pro rights
                   gun control |   crime control
             anti-gun movement | anti-self-defense movement
         semiautomatic handgun | sidearm
               concealed carry | carry or right to carry
      assault or lethal weapon | household firearms
                     junk guns | the affordability issue
       high capacity magazines | full capacity magazines
              Second Amendment | Bill of Rights
        the powerful gun lobby | civil rights organizations
      common sense legislation | dangerous utopian ideas
       reasonable gun controls | victim disarmament
              gun control laws | infringement laws
                      anti gun | anti-gun bigot
                      anti gun | anti-gun prejudice
                      anti gun | anti rights

                When they say: | You say:
            ================================
                     Guns kill | Guns save lives
              Guns cause crime | Guns stop crime
                  Guns are bad | Guns are why America is still free
       Assault weapons are bad | Assault is a type of behavior
         Guns are so dangerous | Guns are supposed to be dangerous
 Guns are too dangerous to own | You should take a safety class
    People shouldn't have guns | Maybe you shouldn't have one
Guns should be totally outlawed | Let's try that with drugs first
The purpose of a gun is to kill | The purpose of a gun is to protect
        People don't need guns | Only good people need guns
           Guns should go away | Then you should personally sign up
                                  to never have a gun in your life, 
                                  as you would ask of me
         They should take away | Bad guys first
                  all the guns 
They should take away all the guns| Who exactly is "they" you would
    because they're so dangerous   you wold give all these dangerous
                                   guns to?
Gun owners should be registered | Bad guys first
Gun owners should be registered | So, how would writing my name on a
             to help stop crime   government list help stop crime?                        
          We need more gun laws | Criminal activity is already banned
Why would anyone want to own a gun? | You're kidding, right? You mean you
                                    really don't know? Well, why do you
                                    think we give guns to the police?
I'm not against people having guns | What sort of guns do you think
                                     people should have, and why?
     Do you really have a gun? | Of course, don't you?
                                                                  Alan Korwin
                                     www.gunlaws.com - Click New Stuff button

"The Chinese, the Russians, the Nazis and Saddam Hussein all agree! Gun Control Works!"
 Dean Armstrong

A little Gun History Lesson:
* In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
* In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
* Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
 * China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
* Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. * Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
* Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
* Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. The tragic history of civilian disarmament cries a warning against any systematic attempts to render innocent citizens ill-equipped to defend themselves from tyrant terrorists, despots or oppressive majorities.
Daniel Schmutter (b. 1964)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." 
United States Constitution, Amendment II Bill of Rights
 
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that 
all power is inherent in the people; that... 
it is their right and duty to be at all times armed;..." 
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824
 
"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. 
The communist party must command all the guns, that way, 
no guns can ever be used to command the party." 
Mao Tse Tung Problems of War and Strategy, Nov 6 1938
 
"One man with a gun can control 100 without one."
Lenin (1870-1924)
 
 "Gun Control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. 
I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. 
Safety Locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. 
We'll see who wins." 
Sammy "the Bull" Gravano (b. 1945) Asked about Gun Control in an interview in Vanity Fair
 
"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device
 to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." 
 Lenin (1870-1924) "The Beginning of the Revolution in Russia"
 
 
I always welcome any input on these matters especially from the Leftists. Just keep it civil, factual and truthful and I will not remove it (I know many of you Liberals struggle with a civil, factual and truthful discussion see
Why Liberals Always Resort To Name-Calling?).

Saturday, February 11, 2012

Fast and Furious just another fraud by the left!

Fast and Furious just another fraud by the left!


The Leftists need to disarm the general population in order to complete the transformation and change they have in mind. The utopian socialist vision envisioned by the Left is their end goal. This vision is flawed and has been repeatedly tried again and again over the last three hundred years all ending in the same horrible fashion. Every time they try some first die at the hands of their Socialist comrades as they are murdered for not allowing themselves to be brain washed (AKA reeducated for the cause). Many more always end up starving after the government can not feed us all after the succubus big government leviathan ruins any and all productivity from those that generated the food before the system was fundamentally irreversibly changed.

The general population has to be disarmed before they can implement the final phase of our Progressive Socialist Utopian conversion. The transparent motives of Obama, Eric Holder and their fellow conspirators is so obvious that even a blind man can see it. The guns they coerced upstanding dealers to sell to thugs knowing full well that some would end up getting used in violent crimes that they could then use to further anti gun legislation against honest citizens of this exceptional country.

President Obama took an oath to protect and uphold the US Constitution and the second amendment is a important part of that Constitution. Our founding fathers knew that an important part of our collective freedom was the ability to defend ourselves, friends, family and neighbors with arms.

Below is great article written by Katie Pavlich  that chronicles the coverup and stonewalling by Holder quite well.

Fast and Furious: Holder Says No Attempt of a Coverup at DOJ


Capitol Hill -- After thirteen months of investigation into the Obama Justice Department’s lethal Operation Fast and Furious and Attorney General Eric Holder’s sixth time answering questions from Congress on the topic, we are stuck with stonewalling, non-answers and more calls for gun control.

“This committee has lost its patience to wait longer,” Chairman of the House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa said.

It was a tense scene inside the committee room when Eric Holder arrived for his testimony. Unexpectedly, ATF whistleblower John Dodson, who came forward first to expose details of Fast and Furious, along with Issa approached Holder for a brief conversation before Holder took his seat.

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(Attorney Geneeral Eric Holder (left) speaks with ATF Special Agent and whistleblower John Dodson (center) and  House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (right). Photo: House Oversight Committee)
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(ATF Special Agent and whistleblower John Dodson watches as Attorney General Eric Holder testifies before the House Oversight Committee. Photo: House Oversight Committee)
“Have you apologized to the whistleblowers who in effect were called liars within your agency who we know were telling the truth?” Indiana Rep. Dan Burton asked Holder.

“No,” Holder responded, saying if whistleblowers wanted to discuss an issue they could “give him a call.”

The reoccurring theme throughout the hearing was stonewalling. "Fortress Holder" graphics were displayed outside of the hearing room and he was continually pressed about why his department refused to cooperative with the Congressional investigation into the program. Out of 80,000 documents relevant to Operation Fast and Furious, the committee has received just 6,000.

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“We’ve been down that road before, and we’ve gotten them [documents],” Rep. Burton said referring to Eric Holder stonewalling Congress for information and refusing to submit thousands of requested documents in unredacted form. “I think you’re hiding behind something here that won’t stand up.”

Holder adamantly denied his department was involved in a cover-up.

"There is no attempt of a cover-up, we have shared huge amounts of information,” Holder said.

Burton encouraged Issa to proceed with a contempt citation if stonewalling from Holder’s Justice Department continues to withhold requested information.

In the six times Holder has been questioned about his knowledge of Fast and Furious, he has been presented with emails and memos detailing and discussing the program. Some of those memos were addressed directly to him as early as July 2010. In May 2011, Holder said he had known about Fast and Furious for “a couple of weeks.” Then in November, Holder said he should have said he knew about the program for a couple of months. Today, he said he found out about the program in February 2010, but didn’t know about tactics being used between November 2009 and December 2010 just before Brian Terry was killed. His defense has been that he didn’t see the memos, read the memos or wasn’t told by his staff what was in the memos about the program.

“Mr. Holder, you’re well known in this town for not reading memos,” Michigan Rep. Tim Walberg said.  “What does that say about your leadership and management that you’ve consistently failed to read your memos?”
Holder responded by saying the American people should give him credit for how he has handled the situation, for the “good things” the Justice Department has accomplished during his time as attorney general. He touted the war on terror and his gains in the Justice Department when it comes to the civil rights division. He also said the American people should give him credit for his work on Fast and Furious and called the investigation a “political gotcha' game in an election year.”
When asked whether he would have approved gun walking techniques, Holder said “no,” calling the tactic “stupid” and “dangerous,” yet he hasn’t fired anyone who we know approved of gunwalking techniques.
“You as the Attorney General, or someone does, needs to be held accountable,” Rep. Buerkle said. “How many more border patrol agents would have had to die for you to take responsibility?”

Holder also denied that Fast and Furious was developed as a way to push through new gun control measures, yet mentioned the Obama administration’s full support for the instatement of the assault rifle ban.
"The notion that somehow or other that this was set up to attack Second Amendment rights is not correct," Holder said, but later adding, "This administration has consistently supported the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban."
Katie Pavlich

Katie Pavlich

Katie Pavlich the News Editor at Townhall.com. Follow her on Twitter @katiepavlich.